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- This is a list of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) with answers, compiled
- for the UseNet newsgroup rec.sport.fencing. It is intended to reduce
- repetitive discussions on the Net by addressing commonly raised topics.
- This document is maintained by Morgan Burke (Email: morgan@sitka.triumf.ca).
- Contributions, corrections, and suggestions are welcome.
-
- Most of the questions and answers pertain to FIE (Olympic) Fencing;
- Japanese fencing (kendo, kenjustsu, iaido, etc.) is treated in a
- separate FAQ list ("Japanese Sword Arts") that can occasionally be
- found in the newsgroups rec.sport.fencing or rec.martial-arts, or on
- the IAIDO-L mailing list (see section 3.7 for details). The Japanese
- Sword Arts FAQ is maintained by Neil Gendzwill (gendzwill@SEDSystems.ca).
-
- Part I of the Fencing FAQ deals with common questions about starting
- fencing, training, and rules of competition. Part II deals with
- fencing equipment, maintenance, and troubleshooting. Part III is a
- list of resources that are useful to the modern fencer (eg. suppliers,
- references, glossary). All parts can be found on the UseNet
- newsgroups rec.sport.fencing, rec.answers, or news.answers.
- Otherwise, consult section 3.7 for information on finding archived
- copies of this document.
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- PART I: General
-
- General:
- 1.1 What sports and martial arts comprise fencing?
- 1.2 Which is the best weapon?
- 1.3 Is fencing going to be eliminated from the Olympics?
-
- Getting Started:
- 1.4 Does it hurt?
- 1.5 What is the best weapon for a beginner to start with?
- 1.6 How long does it take to become good?
- 1.7 What qualities make a good fencer?
- 1.8 How much does it cost to get involved in fencing?
- 1.9 How do I find a good fencing club?
-
- Training:
- 1.10 What kind of cross-training will help my fencing?
- 1.11 How can I improve my technique without the help of a coach?
-
- Regulations:
- 1.12 What is right of way?
- 1.13 What constitutes an attack?
- 1.14 What constitutes a parry?
- 1.15 What are the new FIE rules for 1994/1995?
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- 1.1 What sports and martial arts comprise fencing?
-
- The Olympic sport of fencing is comprised of three weapons: foil,
- epee, and sabre. All are fenced on a long rectangular strip, and
- electronic scoring aids are normally used to assist in the
- detection of touches. The rules governing these three weapons
- are determined by the FIE (Federation Internationale d'Escrime).
- Briefly, the FIE weapons are described as follows:
-
- Foil: Descended from the 18th century small sword, the foil has a
- thin, flexible blade with a square cross-section and a small
- bell guard. Touches are scored with the point on the torso of
- the opponent, including the groin and back. Foil technique
- emphasizes strong defense and the killing attack to the body.
-
- Epee: Similar to the duelling swords of the mid-19th century,
- epees have stiff blades with a triangular cross section,
- and large bell guards. Touches are scored with the point,
- anywhere on the opponent's body. Unlike foil and sabre, there
- no rules of right-of-way to decide which attacks have precedence,
- and double hits are possible. Epee technique emphasises timing,
- point control, and a good counter-attack.
-
- Sabre: Descended from naval and cavalry swords of the late 19th
- century, sabres have a light, flat blade and a knuckle guard.
- Touches can be scored with either the point or the edge of the
- blade, anywhere above the opponent's waist. Sabre technique
- emphasises speed, feints, and strong offense.
-
- The most popular of eastern fencing techniques is kendo, the Japanese
- "Way of the Sword". Kendo is fought with a bamboo shinai, intended
- to resemble a two-handed Japanese battle sword. Combatants wear
- armour, and strike to the top or sides of the head, the sides of the
- body, the throat, or the wrists. Accepted technique must be
- observed, and judges watch for accuracy, power, and spirit. See the
- Japanese Sword Arts FAQ for more information.
-
- Other martial arts that include elements of swordsmanship are:
-
- Aikido -- self defence against armed and unarmed attackers. Includes
- using and defending oneself against Japanese sword techniques.
- Arnis, Escrima -- stick fighting.
- Iaido -- the Japanese art of the draw.
- Kenjutsu -- the unadulterated Japanese martial art of the sword.
- Kung-fu -- a Chinese martial art that includes many sword techniques.
- Modern Pentathlon -- the "soldier's medley", a sport that recreates
- demands placed on a pre-20th century military messenger: running,
- swimming, shooting, equestrian jumping, and epee fencing.
- Single Stick -- an ancestor of sabre fencing, fought with a
- basket-hilted wooden rod.
- SCA -- the "Society for Creative Anachronism", an organization that
- attempts to re-create the lifestyle of Medieval Europe, including
- jousts and tourneys. Emphasizes heavy weapon and shield
- techniques, the use of armour, Florentine fencing, and fencing
- in the round. Additional info on the SCA can be found in the
- newsgroup rec.org.sca.
- Tai Chi -- another Chinese martial art that includes many sword
- techniques.
-
- 1.2 Which is the best weapon?
-
- Such a question is an open invitation to religious warfare.
- Everybody loves to participate, but nothing is ever settled.
-
- If the question means "what kind of fencing is the most fun?" then
- the answer is: it depends what aspects of fencing you enjoy the most.
- If you are fascinated by technique, bladework, and tactics, you will
- probably get a lot of satisfaction from foil fencing. More visceral
- fencers who want to experience the adrenaline rush of a fast,
- agressive sword fight will want to try some sabre. Most epee fencers
- consider themselves practical, no-nonsense sword fighters who rely on
- as few artificial rules as possible. Enthusiasts of more medieval
- combat styles, involving armour and heavy weapons, should consider
- joining the SCA or a kendo dojo.
-
- On the other hand, if the question means "which weapon is the most
- deadly?" the answer will depend on a lot of factors, not the least
- of which are the skill of the combatants, the presence of armour, the
- military and cultural context, and the rules of the fight (ie. is
- this a street fight, a gentlemen's duel, or open field warfare?).
- Most swords are highly optimized for performance in a specific
- environment, and will not perform well outside it. Comparing two
- swords from completely different historical contexts is therefore
- extremely difficult, if not downright silly.
-
- Then again, perhaps the question means "which style of fencing is
- the most realistic?" It must be said that questions of realism have
- little relevance to an activity that has almost no practical
- application in the modern world other than sport and fitness.
- Historically, however, epees have the closest resemblance (among FIE
- weapons) to real duelling swords, and the rules closely parallel
- those of actual duels (sometimes being fought to only a single
- point). Other martial arts with a high realism factor include
- kenjutsu and some aspects of SCA fighting.
-
- 1.3 Is fencing going to be eliminated from the Olympics?
-
- Although fencing is one of only four sports to have been
- involved in every modern Olympic Games since their inception
- in 1896, it has been mentioned as one of the disciplines
- that will be eliminated from the Games following Atlanta 1996.
-
- According to Gilbert Felli, Sports Director of the International
- Olympic Committee, the IOC plans to refine future games in
- various ways, including:
- -- limiting the number of athletes to 15000
- -- increasing participation by women
- -- eliminating "so-called artificial team events"
- -- limiting sports of a similar type
- -- modernizing the Olympic program
- -- encouraging sports that provide a good television spectacle
-
- Fencing is currently undergoing serious revisions to its rules
- and structure to improve its value as a (televised?) spectator
- sport, perhaps in the hopes of retaining its Olympic status.
-
- Lobby efforts to save fencing's Olympic status have been underway
- for at least a year. Olympic fencing is safe through 1996, and
- has even been expanded to include women's epee for the first
- time. The status of Olympic fencing for the 2000 games should be
- determined by now, but news has not yet reached the author.
-
- 1.4 Does it hurt?
-
- Not if done properly. Although executed with appreciable energy,
- a good, clean fencing attack hurts no more than a tap on the
- shoulder. The force of the blow is normally absorbed by the flex
- of the blade. Reckless and overly aggressive fencers can
- occasionally deliver painful blows, however. Fencing *is* a
- martial art, so you should expect minor bruises and welts every
- now and again. They are rarely intentional. The most painful
- blows tend to come from inexperienced fencers who have not yet
- acquired the feel of the weapon.
-
- The primary source of injury in fencing is from pulled muscles
- and joints. Proper warm-up and stretching before fencing will
- minimize these occurences.
-
- There is a risk of being injured by broken weapons. The shards
- of a snapped blade can be very sharp and cause serious injury,
- especially if the fencer doesn't immediately realize his blade is
- broken, and continues fencing. Always wear proper protective
- gear to reduce this risk. FIE homologated jackets, britches, and
- masks are ideal, as they are made with puncture-resistant fabrics
- such as kevlar. If you cannot afford such extravagances, use a
- plastron (half-jacket worn beneath the regular fencing jacket),
- and avoid old and rusty masks. Always wear a glove that covers
- the cuff, to prevent blades from running up the sleeve.
-
- Fencing is often said to be safer than golf. Whether or not this
- is true, it is an extraordinarily safe sport considering its
- heritage and nature.
-
- 1.5 What is the best weapon for a beginner to start with?
-
- Foil is the most common starter weapon. It is an excellent weapon
- to begin with if you have no preferences or want to learn
- generalized principles of swordfighting. Transitions to the other
- weapons from foil are relatively straight forward. Foil is an
- abstracted form of fencing that emphasises proper defence, and
- cleanly executed killing attacks. Historically it was a training
- weapon for the small sword, so it is well suited for the purposes of
- learning. However, it is far from a simple weapon, and many
- experienced fencers return to foil after trying the others.
-
- Sabre can also be an effective starter weapon, for a few reasons.
- Like foil, it has rules of right-of-way to emphasize proper
- defense, and its de-emphasis of point attacks can be a relief to
- a beginner who doesn't yet have much point control. Also, some
- low-level sabre competitions are still fenced dry, meaning that
- it can be the cheapest of all weapons to compete in (although
- electric sabre is definitely the most expensive weapon).
- However, sabre differs from foil and epee in a few key respects
- that can reduce its effectiveness as a starter weapon if the
- fencer plans to try the others in the future. Among these
- differences are the aforementioned de-emphasis of point attacks,
- and a different sense of timing and distance.
-
- Epee can sometimes be a good starter weapon for two reasons. First,
- the rules are simple and easy to grasp, and second, the competition
- costs are lower, since no lame' is required. However, the apparent
- simplicity of the sport can obscure its subtleties to the beginner,
- and make progress difficult later on. Furthermore, the lack of
- right-of-way in epee can make transitions to the other two weapons
- difficult, if put off for too long.
-
- 1.6 How long does it take to become good?
-
- There is a saying that it takes two lifetimes to master fencing. By
- the time anyone has come close to "mastering" the sport, they are
- long past their athletic prime. Some may feel that this is a
- drawback to the sport, but most fencers see it as a great strength:
- fencing never becomes dull or routine; there are always new skills to
- master, and new grounds to conquer.
-
- A dedicated novice who practices twice per week will be ready to
- try low-level competition in 3-6 months. Competition at this point
- should be viewed as a learning aid, not as a dedicated effort to win.
-
- Serious attempts at competing will be possible after 2-3 years,
- when the basic skills have been sufficiently mastered that the
- mind is free to consider strategy.
-
- A moderate level of skill (eg. C classification) can take 3-5 years
- of regular practice and competition.
-
- Penetration of the elite ranks (eg. world cup, A classification)
- demands three to five days per week of practice and competition, and
- usually at least 10-15 years of experience.
-
- Progress can be faster or slower, depending on the fencer's aptitude,
- attitude, and dedication. Rapid progress normally requires at least
- three practices per week, and regular competition against superior
- fencers.
-
- The average world champion is in his late 20s to early 30s and began
- fencing as a child.
-
- 1.7 What qualities make a good fencer?
-
- There are many.
-
- On the athletic side, speed and endurance must rank foremost. Other
- traits that can be exploited are strength, precision, and flexibility.
- Quick reaction time is extremely important.
-
- On the intellectual side, a good mind for strategy and tactics is
- essential. The ability to quickly size up your opponent and adapt
- your style accordingly is essential.
-
- Psychologically, a fencer must be able to maintain focus, concentration,
- and emotional level-headedness under intense conditions of combat.
- Stress management, visualization, and relaxation techniques are all
- helpful to putting in winning performances.
-
- As far as body type goes, it is always possible to adapt your style
- to take advantage of your natural traits. Even so, height seems to
- be useful in epee, but not necessarily in sabre. Small or thin
- people are harder to hit in foil. A long reach helps in epee, and
- long legs are an asset in foil.
-
- It should be noted that left handers usually enjoy a slight advantage,
- especially against inexperienced fencers. This may account for the
- fact that lefties make up 15% of fencers, but half of FIE world
- champions.
-
- 1.8 How much does it cost to get involved in fencing?
-
- Beginner's dry fencing setup: about $100 - $200 US
- Includes: cotton jacket, glove, dry weapon, mask
-
- FIE Competition setup: about $500 - $1000 US
- Includes: FIE 800N jacket & britches, FIE 1600N mask, at least
- 2 electric weapons, body cord, socks, glove, shoes, lame
- (foil & sabre only), sensor (sabre only).
- Note: while FIE-certified equipment is recommended both in
- terms of safety and quality, clothing costs can be as much
- as halved by purchasing regular cotton or synthetic knits.
- Do not expect such equipment to be accepted at national or
- international levels of competition, however. Always wear
- a plastron when using non-homologated fencing jackets.
-
- Club costs vary, but are usually on the order of $50-$100 per year
- for each day per week of fencing. Many clubs will provide or rent
- equipment to beginners.
-
- 1.9 How do I find a good fencing club?
-
- Start with your local Provincial or Divisional fencing association.
- If you don't know how to find them, contact your national fencing body
- (see section 3.1). Your national body may maintain a list of known
- fencing clubs in the country. Otherwise, your local association will
- be able to tell you about recognized clubs in your area. Many
- universities and colleges also sponsor fencing clubs and teams that
- will often accept non-students as members. You might also check out
- courses or camps offered by local community centers. American fencers
- with WWW access can find a list of U.S. fencing clubs at
- http://sarah.rsip.lsu.edu/fencing/fencing.clubs.html
-
- Once you have a list of potential clubs, you will want to
- evaluate them and your needs. Desirable qualities vary, depending
- on your skill level and what you want to get out of fencing.
- Ask the following questions when selecting your club (if you're not
- sure what you want, "yes" is a good answer to all these questions):
- Does it have an active beginners' program? Are there enough fencers
- of your own skill level? Are there some fencers above your skill
- level? If you don't have your own equipment, does the club provide
- it? Does the club have ample electric scoring boxes and reels? Does
- the club emphasize the same weapons that you are interested in? Do
- club members compete regularly? Does the club have a master or
- coach? Has he/she had many competitive successes either fencing or
- coaching? Can you get individual lessons and instruction? At no
- extra cost?
-
- Lastly, atmosphere is important to any social endeavour. Choose a
- club that makes you feel comfortable and relaxed without sacrificing
- the athletic spirit that is essential to progress.
-
- 1.10 What kind of cross-training will help my fencing?
-
- The best training for fencing is fencing. Fencing development is
- asymmetrical and few other sports use the same muscle groups, so
- this is a difficult question whose answer depends largely on what
- aspect of your training you really want to focus on.
-
- Cardiovascular fitness and leg strength always help, so anything that
- enhances these will be beneficial. Cycling, swimming, and aerobics
- are good examples. Running, sprinting, soccer, basketball, and
- similar sports can also be helpful, although some athletes dislike
- the stresses they put on the knees. Racquet sports like tennis,
- badminton, squash, racquetball, and table tennis are also excellent,
- and will exercise your weapon arm in addition to your legs.
-
- Many martial arts have physical and mental demands that are similar
- to fencing, and can improve both your fitness and your intellectual
- approach to the sport. Technique and tactics very rarely translate,
- however.
-
- Weight training can help, if done properly, but the athlete must
- remember that flexibility, speed, and technique are more important
- than raw strength. Endurance training should have priority over
- bodybuilding. Strength training can help, provided it doesn't
- compromise flexibility. Most fencing weight-training programs
- concentrate heavily on leg and lower-body development. Excessive
- weight training of the arms and upper body can adversely affect point
- control, according to some masters. According to them, weighted
- wrist straps worn during regular practice are preferable.
-
- Some fencers maintain that juggling improves reactions, hand-eye
- coordination, and use of peripheral vision.
-
- Many coaches and fencers suggest occasional fencing or workouts with
- your opposite hand, both to improve skill and balance your muscular
- development.
-
- 1.11 How can I improve my technique without the help of a coach?
-
- It is very easy to acquire bad habits and poor technique if you do
- not have the guidance of a knowledgable fencing master, coach, or
- fellow fencer. If you are serious about improving your fencing,
- quality coaching is always your best investment. However, a
- disciplined fencer still has options if decent instruction is not
- available on a regular basis.
-
- Firstly, a solid knowledge of fencing theory and regulations is a
- must. The freelance fencer should study the FIE Rules of
- Competition and a good fencing manual (see Section 3.3). The
- fencer should test and apply this knowledge by presiding whenever
- possible. An appreciation of good fencing style is also
- essential, so that the fencer can readily identify weaknesses in
- his own and other fencers' techniques. Observation and comparison
- of skilled or accomplished fencers will develop this ability.
- Training videotapes and videotapes of high-level competitions (see
- Section 3.5) are also helpful in this regard.
-
- The freelance fencer must be open-minded and critical of his own
- technique, so that he can recognize problems before they develop
- into habits. Discussion of his weaknesses with training opponents
- will help him clarify the areas that need work. If possible, he
- should videotape his bouts and review them to spot defects in his
- tactics and technique.
-
- The fencer should seek out opponents who will strenuously test
- his weaknesses. More experienced fencers, left-handers, those
- whose tactics are particularly effective, and even those with
- annoying (ie. difficult) styles should be courted on the practice
- strip. When fencing less skilled opponents, the fencer should
- restrict his tactics to a small set that require practice, and
- resist the temptation to open up if he should start losing.
-
- The opportunity to participate in footwork and line drills should
- never be passed up. When he can find an agreeable partner, the
- fencer can do more personalized drills to exercise his weak areas.
- (Of course it is courteous to indulge the needs of one's partner
- when he in turn works on his own training.)
-
- Lastly, the fencer should remain aware of his bout psychology and
- mental state when fencing, and try to cultivate the mindset that
- in his experience produces good fencing.
-
- 1.12 What is right-of-way?
-
- Right-of-way is the set of rules used to determine who is awarded the
- point when there is a double touch in foil or sabre (ie. both fencers
- hit each other in the same fencing time). It is detailed in the
- FIE Rules of Competition, Articles 232-237 (foil) and 416-423
- (sabre).
-
- The core assumption behind right-of-way is that a fencing bout is
- always in one of three states:
-
- -- nothing significant is happening
- -- the fencers are conceiving and executing their actions
- simultaneously
- -- one fencer is controlling the action and tempo and the other
- is trying to gain control.
-
- Since no points will be scored in the first situation, we can ignore
- it. In the second situation, the fencers' actions have equal
- significance, and it is impossible to award a touch. Both touches
- will be annulled and the bout will be resumed where it was
- stopped.
-
- The third situation is the tricky one. The controlling fencer has
- the right-of-way, and his hit has precedence over any hit from the
- other fencer. The job of the director is to decide which
- fencer was NOT controlling the action, and annul his touch. If he
- cannot decide, the director should abstain, annul BOTH hits, and
- resume the action where it left off.
-
- Control (and right-of-way) is taken whenever one fencer threatens
- the other with his blade. A threat can be either an attack (see
- question 1.13), or a "point in line" that is established before
- the opponent attacks.
-
- Control (and right-of-way) is lost when an attack misses, falls
- short, is broken off, or is deflected away from the target by a
- parry or other engagement from the defender. The defender has a
- split-second window of opportunity to return the attack
- (ie. riposte) before the attacker recovers; if he does so, he
- takes over right-of-way and the tables have turned. Otherwise it
- is a toss-up; the first fencer to initiate an attack will sieze
- the right-of-way anew.
-
- The right-of-way relationships between common fencing actions are as
- follows:
-
- - derobement has right-of-way over attacks on the blade
- - attacks on the blade have right-of-way over the point in line
- - point in line has right-of-way over the attack
- - the simple attack has right-of-way over the stop-hit
- - the stop-hit has right-of-way over the renewal of the attack
- - the stop-hit in time has right-of-way over the compound attack
- - the riposte has right-of-way over the renewal of the attack
- - the counter-riposte has right-of-way over the renewal of the riposte
- - the remise of the attack has right-of-way over the delayed riposte
-
- 1.13 What constitutes an attack?
-
- According to Article 10 of the FIE rules of competition, "the
- attack is the initial offensive action made by extending the arm
- and continuously threatening the valid target of the opponent."
-
- A threatening weapon is normally interpreted to be one that will
- hit the opponent if nothing is done to prevent it. In other
- words, a weapon threatens if it is moving towards the target in a
- smooth, unbroken trajectory. This trajectory can be curved,
- especially if the attack is indirect, compound, or involves a
- cutting action. Hesitations and movements of the blade away from
- the target will usually be perceived as a break in the attack or a
- preparation of the attack.
-
- One common misconception is that a straight or straightening arm is
- required to assert the attack. While this was a traditional
- interpretation of the above rule, both the strict wording and
- prevailing modern interpretation do not require that the attacker's
- arm become straight or even nearly so. It is sufficient if the arm
- extends, even just slightly, from its normal on-guard position. A
- long arm is still good style, though, since it gives superior reach
- and clearly shows the fencer's intent. While the attack can often
- be asserted with only slight extension, retraction of the arm will
- almost always be interpreted as a break in the attack.
-
- Another common misconception is that a point attack does not
- threaten unless the point is in line. This is not generally true.
- An out-of-line point does threaten if it is moving towards the
- target on a smooth, unbroken trajectory. The most common example
- of this is the coupe' (cut-over), in which the blade is pulled out
- of line to avoid the the opponent's blade, and then returned into
- line to finish the attack. Coupe' takes the right-of-way
- immediately, even though the point is initially pulled out of
- line. So-called "flicks", relatives of the coupe' that involve
- whipping the foible of the blade around parries or blocking body
- parts, can also take the right-of-way when the blade starts its
- final forward stroke.
-
- Many fencers are under the mistaken impression that a bent arm or
- out-of-line point constitutes a preparation, and therefore that
- they can rightfully attack into it. If the bent arm is extending
- and the out-of-line point is moving towards the target, however,
- this assumption is usually false under modern fencing conventions.
- A successful attack on the preparation must clearly precede the
- opponent's initiation of the phrase or a break in his attack, or
- else arrive a fencing time ahead of his touch.
-
- Sabre fencers must also consider Article 417 of the Rules of
- Competition, which states when the attack must land relative to the
- footfalls of a lunge, advance-lunge, (and fleche, historically).
- Attacks that arrive after the prescribed footfall are deemed
- continuations, and do not have right-of-way over the
- counter-attack. Sabre fencers must also remember that whip-over
- touches can sometimes be interpreted as remises, and not
- mal-parries.
-
- 1.14 What constitutes a parry?
-
- According to Article 10 of the FIE Rules of Competition, "the
- parry is the defensive action made with the weapon to prevent the
- attack from arriving".
-
- A successful parry deflects the threatening blade away from the
- target. It is not sufficient merely to find or touch the
- opponent's blade; the fencer must also exhibit control over it.
- If the attack continues without any replacement of the point and
- makes a touch, it retains the right-of-way ("mal-parry" by the
- defender). If the attacker must replace the point into a
- threatening line before continuing, it is a remise (renewal of the
- attack) and does not have right-of-way over the riposte.
-
- A well-executed parry should take the foible of the attacker's
- blade with the forte and/or guard of the defender's. This
- provides the greatest control over the opponent's blade. In
- other cases the parry can still be seen as sufficient if the
- attacking blade is sufficiently deflected. In ambiguous cases,
- however, the benefit of the doubt is usually given to the fencer
- who used his forte/guard. For example, if a fencer attempts to
- parry using his foible on his opponent's forte, it will often be
- interpreted in the reverse sense (eg. counter-time parry by the
- attacker), since such an engagement does not normally result in
- much deflection of the attack. A foible to foible parry could
- potentially be seen as a beat attack by the opposing fencer
- depending on the specifics of the action.
-
- At foil, the opponent's blade should not only be deflected away
- from the target, but away from off-target areas as well. An
- attack that is deflected off the valid target but onto invalid
- target still retains right-of-way.
-
- At sabre, the opponent's blade need only be deflected away from
- valid target, since off-target touches do not stop the phrase.
- Cuts are considered parried if their forward movement is stopped
- by a block with the blade or guard. Otherwise, sabre parries
- must be particularly clean and clear to avoid the possibility of
- whip-over touches.
-
- At epee, a good parry is simply any one that gains enough time
- for the riposte. Opposition parries and prise-de-fer are commonly
- used, since they do not release the opponent's blade to allow a
- remise.
-
- 1.15 What are the new FIE rules for 1994/1995?
-
- EQUIPMENT:
- - In foil, the bib is on target as of Oct 1, 1995.
- - 800N underarm protector (plastron) is required in addition
- to the regular 800N jacket.
- - Clothing may be of different colours, but those on the body
- must be white or light-coloured.
- - Minimum width of the strip is now 1.5 metres.
-
- ETIQUETTE:
- - Salute of opponent, referee, and audience is mandatory at
- the start and end of the bout.
-
- BOUT FORMAT:
- - Coin flip to determine winner in the event of a tie shall be
- made at end of regulation time, and one additional minute
- shall be fenced. The winner of the coin toss shall be
- recorded as the victor if the bout is not resolved by sudden
- death in the extra minute.
- - No more 1-minute warning, although fencers can request the
- time remaining at any normal halt in the action.
- - Fencers shall be placed at the en garde lines at the
- commencement of each 3-minute period in 15-touch elimination
- bouts.
-
- SCORING:
- - In sabre, simultaneous attacks that both arrive on the valid
- target do not result in any points being scored.
- - In sabre, any action in which the rear leg is crossed in
- front of the fore shall be penalized with a yellow card, or
- a red card if a yellow has already been given. Any touch
- scored by the penalized fencer resulting from the cross-over
- action shall not be scored, although a properly-executed
- touch from the opponent is still valid.
- - In the team relay, the first pair of fencers fence to 5
- points or 4 minutes, whichever comes first. The next pair
- continue from this score up to 10 points within 4 minutes,
- and so on up to a total score of 45 points.
-
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-
- ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
-
- Author: Morgan Burke (morgan@sitka.triumf.ca)
- Contributors: special thanks to Suman Palit, Guy Smith, Greg Dilworth,
- Kevin Taylor, Eric Anderson, Blaine Price, Steve Hick, Kim
- Moser, David Glasser, Bryan Mansfield, Donald Lane, Ann McBain,
- Hagen Lieffertz, Mark C. Orton, Mike Buckley, Dirk Goldar,
- Scott Holmes, Arild Dyrseth, David Airey, Renee Mcmeeken, Marc
- Walch, Eric Speicher, Anton Oskamp, Bernard Hunt, Francis Cordero,
- Kent Krumvieda, David Van Houten, John Crawford
-
- (C) 1993, 1994, 1995 Morgan Burke
- Permission is granted to copy and distribute all or part of this document
- for non-profit purposes.
-
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- End of rec.sport.fencing FAQ part I
-
- Archive-name: sports/fencing-faq/part2
- Last-modified: 1995/03/08
- Version: 4.10
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-
- This is Part 2 of the 3-part rec.sport.fencing Frequently Asked
- Questions list. All parts can be found on the UseNet newsgroups
- rec.sport.fencing, rec.answers, or news.answers. Otherwise, consult
- section 3.7 for information on finding archived copies of this
- document.
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-
- PART II: EQUIPMENT
-
- Equipment & Maintenance:
-
- 2.1 Clothing
- 2.1.1 FIE Homologated Clothing
- 2.1.2 Colours
- 2.2 Masks
- 2.2.1 Bibs
- 2.3 Shoes
- 2.3.1 Inserts
- 2.4 Gloves
- 2.5 Lame's
- 2.5.1 Repair
- 2.6 Armour
- 2.7 Grips
- 2.7.1 Traditional
- 2.7.2 Pistol
- 2.8 Blades
- 2.8.1 Maraging Blades
- 2.8.2 Tangs
- 2.8.3 Bends and Curvature
- 2.9 Guards
- 2.10 Points
- 2.11 Glue
- 2.12 Scoring Apparatus
- 2.12.1 Wireless Systems
-
- Troubleshooting:
-
- 2.13 Foil
- 2.14 Epee
- 2.15 Sabre
-
- NB: equipment merchants are listed in section 3.2.
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-
- 2.1 Clothing
-
- Fencing clothing includes the jacket, pants, plastron (underarm
- protector), and socks. Some companies manufacture unitards
- (combined jacket and pants). Inexpensive practice gear is
- fashioned of synthetics or heavy cotton, but competition clothing
- is required to pass an 800 N puncture test.
-
- Casual and beginner fencers can rely on cotton or synthetic
- jackets, but should consider using a plastron for extra
- protection. Track pants or baseball knickers are also thrifty
- alternatives to genuine fencing clothing.
-
- Most jackets are left- or right-handed. Women's jackets are not
- only cut differently, but have pockets for breast protectors.
- Ambidextrous (back-zip) jackets are available, but generally not
- with homologated fabrics. Ambidextrous (double-sided) plastrons
- are available from some manufacturers.
-
- Knee-high sport socks (such as for soccer/football or baseball)
- can be purchased from most sporting goods stores. Skin should
- not show between the socks and pant legs nor the cuff and glove
- of the weapon hand. The trailing hand and back of the head
- should be the only areas of exposed skin on the fencer's body.
-
- 2.1.1 FIE Homologated Clothing
-
- 800N homologated clothing is fashioned from special fabrics such
- as kevlar, Startex, or ballistic nylon. Some uniforms
- (especially older uniforms of kevlar construction) offer partial
- 800N coverage in vital areas with lighter 350N fabrics used
- elsewhere. Full-coverage 800N uniforms are now the norm in
- homologated clothing.
-
- As of 1 January 1995, the rules for FIE 'A' level competition
- demand full 800N homologated jacket and pants, plus an additional
- 800N plastron.
-
- The CFF currently requires a minimum of 800/350N uniforms for all
- elite tournaments. No plastron is required in conjunction with
- FIE clothing.
-
- Beginning October 1, 1995, the USFA will require a minimum of
- 800/350N uniforms for all selection events and the Olympic
- Festival (this will include Cadet, Junior and Open NACs, Div. I
- National Championships, Junior Olympic Championships and U-19
- National Championships). A regulation (non-FIE) plastron is
- required at all USFA events.
-
- 800N clothing generally provides the highest degree of quality
- and protection available. It is strongly recommended for serious
- competitors, and for anyone else concerned about their safety.
- Although considerably more expensive than practice gear, many
- fencers find it well worth the price.
-
- Kevlar clothing should be washed with mild detergent-free soap,
- and no bleach. Hang dry away from sources of ultraviolet light
- (especially direct sunlight). Store in a dark place (a closet or
- your fencing bag, for example).
-
- 2.1.2 Colours
-
- Traditionally, fencing clothing is all white (for historical
- reasons that probably had to do with detection of hits), but the
- rules have recently been relaxed to allow "light" colours on the
- body. Other colours may be permitted on the limbs. The fencer's
- last name and country can appear on the back in block blue
- letters (or in the USA only, on the trailing leg); this is
- required in international competition. National colours can be
- worn on an armband on the trailing arm. Club or association
- badges can be stitched to the upper trailing arm.
-
- 2.2 Masks
-
- Foil masks should be well-insulated to prevent touches to the
- head from conducting to the lame' and registering as a touch.
- Electric sabre masks must be conductive, on the other hand, to
- allow head touches. Epee masks should have bibs that cover the
- collar bones, while foil masks should not descend below the
- collar bones.
-
- Masks usually come in 3 or 5 sizes, depending on the
- manufacturer. When sizes are numbered, 5 is usually the largest.
- Sizes are often indicated by the position of a metal tag or rivet
- on the rear portion of the mesh.
-
- Masks must pass a 12 kg punch test to be certified for
- competition. Consider subjecting a used mask to such a test
- before using/purchasing it. Older masks can have smaller bibs
- and weaker mesh (rated to 7 kg), making them less safe. When
- punch testing a mask, depress the punch perpendicular to the mesh
- without wiggling it. Do not apply more than the required amount
- of pressure. Pay particular attention to parts of the mesh that
- have already been dented or bent, including the center crease
- line. Unnatural dents in the mesh can and should be pushed or
- hammered out.
-
- 2.2.1 Bibs
-
- The best masks have FIE homologated bibs to protect the throat,
- and are required in high-level competition. 1600N bibs are
- standard in FIE competition as of 1 January 1995. The CFF
- requires 800N bibs as a minimum in elite competition, while the
- USFA has no FIE bib requirement.
-
- As of October 1, 1995, the bib is part of the valid foil target.
- Enforcement of this rule at first should only be expected at
- high-level international competitions. The CFF and USFA have no
- immediate plans to implement this rule. It is not clear at
- present just how equipment manufacturers will handle this change.
- Metallic sleeves for the bibs of older masks will probably become
- available, attached with velcro or something similar.
-
- 2.3 Shoes
-
- Fencing shoes are ideal, but often expensive. They
- characteristically have leather "skid pads" on the inside front
- of the shoe, and a sole that wraps back over the heel. Adidas
- makes low- and high-top models that are known for their quality,
- but can be quite expensive and hard to find in North America.
- Cheaper brands from Eastern Europe and China are also available.
-
- Lightweight indoor court shoes (such as for squash, badminton,
- racquetball, or volleyball) make excellent low-cost alternatives.
- Asics, Hi-Tec, Reebok, Etonic, and Adidas have all been
- recommended by rec.sport.fencing readers for manufacturing models
- that are useful for fencing.
-
- Some fencers claim that wrestling shoes can be adapted for
- fencing, although they may not offer much support. Many outdoor
- athletic shoes and running shoes are too bulky or heavy for
- fencing, or provide inadequate lateral stability.
-
- 2.3.1 Inserts
-
- Hard heel cups are widely used to absorb the impact of lunges.
- They are integrated into many models of fencing shoe, but can be
- purchased separately from specialty athletic and orthopedics
- stores for other shoes. Softer rubber (eg. Sorbothane) inserts
- are also commonly used to provide extra cushioning or prevent
- chronic injuries from flaring.
-
- 2.4 Gloves
-
- Gloves should have leather or equivalent construction in the
- fingers and palm, have a long cuff to cover the sleeve opening,
- and have an opening for the bodywire. They should not fit too
- snugly, or they will be more susceptable to tearing. Varying
- degrees of padding are available in the back of the hand and
- fingers, which can be useful for epee and sabre fencers.
-
- Gloves can deteriorate rapidly under heavy use, often lasting a
- single season or less. Some gloves are washable; saddle soap or
- other leather treatment can extend the lives of other gloves
- somewhat.
-
- Economical alternatives to genuine fencing gloves include
- precision welding gloves, motorcycle gloves, and even common
- workman's gloves available at any hardware store, provided the
- fingers and palm are unpadded and supple enough to maintain the
- feel of the blade. It may be prudent to hand-stitch a longer
- gauntlet onto the cuff, if the normal one doesn't cover the
- sleeve opening. In all these cases, a small wire opening may
- have to be cut into the wrist.
-
- 2.5 Lame's
-
- The highest quality ones are made of stainless steel, which is
- much more corrosion resistant than copper. Your lame' should
- come to your hip bones, and be form-fitting but not too tight.
- Most lame's come in right and left-handed versions, but
- ambidextrous (back-zip) versions are also available and sometimes
- have higher hips.
-
- Careful rinsing of your lame' in lukewarm water following a
- tournament or rigourous practice will wash out most of the sweat
- and salts that will damage your lame'. Old sweat turns alkaline
- and can be quite damaging to the lame' fabric. The salt crystals
- left behind from dried sweat can also be abrasive and conducive
- to corrosion.
-
- Occasional handwashing in lukewarm water with a mild detergent
- (eg. Woolite or dishsoap) and a small amount of ammonia is an
- excellent way of cleaning your lame' and prolonging its life.
- Some fencers recommend neutralizing the alkaline deposits in the
- lame' with lemon juice added to the bath (about 2 lemons worth).
-
- Rinse your lame' after washing and hang dry on a wooden or
- plastic hanger. Avoid folding, crumpling, wringing, or abrading
- it. All of these will fatigue the metallic threads in the
- fabric.
-
- Similar care should be taken with sabre cuffs and mask bibs.
-
- 2.5.1 Repair
-
- Lame's can go dead for several reasons, including high electric
- resistance due to oxidation and corrosion (usually accompanied by
- visible discolouration), broken metal fibres, or tears in the
- fabric.
-
- High-resistance areas that are due to oxidation can often be
- temporarily resucitated by moistening them with water. As the
- moisture soaks up salts and other deposits in the fabric,
- conductivity will increase enough for the lame' to pass the
- weapon check. Sweat from vigourous fencing will have the same
- effect.
-
- Small dead spots be "field-repaired" with a paper stapler or
- metallic marker.
-
- Larger dead areas and tears in the fabric can only be reliably
- repaired by stitching new lame' fabric over the affected areas.
- The fabric from the back of one dead lame' can be used to repair
- the front of another.
-
- 2.6 Armour
-
- Padded jackets, plastrons, and gloves are available to take the
- sting out of hard hits. Most coaches will use special
- heavily-padded jackets or sleeves when giving lessons, but these
- are not intended for competitive use.
-
- Some masks have extra coverage at the back of the head to protect
- against whip-overs. Elbow protectors are also commonly worn by
- sabreurs.
-
- Athletic cups are important for men, and breast protectors are
- essential for women. The latter can take the form of individual
- bowls to cover each breast, or more complete full-chest
- protectors that cover the ribs up to the collarbone.
-
- 2.7 Grips
-
- For foil and epee, there are a wide variety of grips
- available that fall into two broad categories, traditional and
- pistol. Sabre grips are all fundamentally of the same design.
-
- Most grips are fashioned of aluminum or plastic; the latter,
- while lighter, are also much more fragile and prone to cracking.
- Some grips are insulated with a layer of enamel (colour coded by
- size), and many traditional grips are surfaced with leather,
- rubber, or twine.
-
- 2.7.1 Traditional
-
- These are the French, Italian, and Spanish grips. All consist of
- a relatively simple handle, a large, exposed pommel, and in the
- case of the Italian and Spanish grips, crossbars or similar
- prongs for extra grip.
-
- The French grip is the simplest of all fencing grips in
- construction, and the most economical. It emphasizes finger
- control over strength, and provides considerable flexibility. It
- is the most common grip used by novices.
-
- The Italian grip is noted for its strength, but is fairly rare,
- partially because it requires a special tang on blades that are
- used with it. It is the only ambidextrous fencing grip. Italian
- grips are often equipped with a martingale (wrist strap).
-
- The Spanish grip is a compromise between the French and Italian
- grips, but is illegal in modern fencing competition, due to a
- perceived safety hazard in not being able to release the weapon
- easily. There are modern variants of the Spanish grip that do
- not use the French pommel, but their legality is unclear.
-
- 2.7.2 Pistol
-
- These are modern, orthopedic grips, shaped vaguely like a pistol,
- but still grasped in the traditional way. They provide a
- pronounced strength advantage over the traditional grips, but
- tend to encourage wrist movement over finger movement. Pistol
- grips all have the features of a large protuberance below the
- tang for the aids to grasp, a curved prong above the tang that
- fits in the crook of the thumb, and a large prong that extends
- along the inside of the wrist. Some varieties (eg. Visconti,
- German) are heavily sculpted for the fingers, while others
- (eg. Belgian, Russian) are relatively smooth but may provide an
- extra prong for the middle finger (Belgian only).
-
- 2.8 Blades
-
- There are a large number of variables to consider when shopping
- for blades, including stiffness, length, durability, flex point,
- weight, balance, corrosion resistance, and (of course) price.
-
- Stiff blades provide better point control, but less
- "flickability". A flex point less than 1/3 of the length from
- the tip indicates a strong middle, but may also indicate a whippy
- or less durable foible. A lower flex point may make the blade
- feel spongy, slow, or tip-heavy, but may also indicate a stronger
- foible that is more durable and less easily dominated. Some
- brands of blades (eg. Allstar) are sold in different flexibility
- grades.
-
- Blades generally come in 5 sizes, 5 being the longest (90 cm for
- foil and epee) and by far the most common. Shorter blades are
- somewhat lighter and quicker of action, and can be useful for
- children, fencers who prefer the lighter balance, or those who
- often provoke infighting in which a long blade can be
- disadvantageous.
-
- Cheap blades (including some Eastern European and Chinese brands)
- are typically not very durable or of poor temper, being inclined
- to snap, bend, and rust easily. Fencers who are gentle with
- their blades and clean, sand, or oil them regularly may
- nevertheless find them to be a good value.
-
- Blades typically break at the flex point in the foible. Less
- commonly the tips will break off, or the tang will snap at the
- base of the blade (this latter failure mode is fairly common in
- sabre). Other serious modes of failure include sharp bends in
- the middle of the blade and S-bends in the foible, both of which
- are difficult to remove and will rapidly lead to fatiguing and
- eventual breaking of the blade.
-
- 2.8.1 Maraging Blades
-
- Maraging steel foil blades have a reputation for lasting
- considerably longer than regular steel blades, and are supposed
- to break more cleanly. They are mandatory in many high-level
- competitions. Many fencers find them a superior value, in spite
- of their high price. As they vary in character in the same way
- as regular blades, similar caution should be exercised when
- purchasing them.
-
- Maraging epee blades are also available, although there are
- alternative steels that have also received FIE certification.
-
- Maraging sabre blades do not seem to be so well received, and are
- not required for FIE competition.
-
- 2.8.2 Tangs
-
- The length and thread of the tang may be an issue; some blades
- are threaded for French or pistol grips only, and some blades
- with French grip tangs require an extra fitting for the thread.
- Italian grips may require a special tang, since part of it is
- exposed in the hilt. Metric 6x1 threading is standard, but not
- universal (esp. in the USA, where a 12x24 thread may be
- encountered); dies to re-thread the tang can be found at most
- hardware stores. If the tang must be cut to fit the grip, be
- very careful to leave enough thread to screw on the pommel nut.
- Tangs often have to be filed down to fit in tight grips.
-
- Tangs are attached by an exterior pommel on traditional grips, or
- by a pommel nut in pistol grips. Pommel nuts are typically
- fitted for a 6mm Allen wrench or hex key, 8mm socket wrench, or a
- standard screwdriver.
-
- 2.8.3 Bends and Curvature
-
- Many foil and epee fencers prefer a bend at the join of the tang
- and blade, so that the blade points slightly inside when held in
- sixte. Such a bend is best applied with a strong vise to avoid
- bowing the tang. Some fencers prefer to put this bend into the
- forte of the blade instead. Be gentle; blades will snap if
- handled with too much force.
-
- A gentle curve in the foible of the blade is also common, and
- helps to square the point against oblique surfaces. Such a bend
- must be smooth and gradual. Sharp kinks are prohibited. Foible
- bends are best worked into the blade using the sole of one's shoe
- and the floor.
-
- For foil and epee, the total curvature of the blade is measured
- at the widest separation between the blade and an imaginary line
- drawn between the the join of the forte and tang and the join of
- the foible and barrel. The blade can be laid across a flat
- surface such as a table top to measure the arch. Epees must not
- rise more than 1 cm above the surface, while foils are allowed 2
- cm. If the objective is to angle the point to hit oblique
- surfaces better, this is a significant amount of curvature. If
- the objective is to "hook" the blade around blocking parries or
- body parts, however, these limits are fairly restrictive.
-
- Remember that the wire groove on epee and foil blades goes on the
- top (thumb side) of the blade, and the outside of the blade
- curvature.
-
- Sabre curvature is handled differently, it being the deflection
- of the point from the line of the forte. 4 cm is all that is
- tolerated.
-
- 2.9 Guards
-
- Foil guards vary mostly in diameter, being between 9.5 and 12 cm
- across. The largest guards (eg. Negrini) may fail the weapon
- guage check if they are dented or misshapen.
-
- Epee guards are almost always the maximum diameter (13.5 cm) for
- best protection, although they can vary considerably in shape,
- depth (3 - 5.5 cm), weight, and eccentricity (up to 3.5 cm off of
- center).
-
- "Mini epee" guards are available from some vendors, but they are
- recommended only for Pentathletes.
-
- Sabre guards come in left- and right-handed versions (the outside
- of the guard being larger).
-
- 2.10 Points
-
- Many fencers have experienced trouble mixing their points,
- barrels, and wires. They are best used in matched sets.
-
- Points are regularly tested in competition. Both foil and epee
- points must pass a weight test, by lifting a mass (500g for foil;
- 750g for epee) after the point is depressed. In addition, epees
- must pass two shim tests, the first to make sure that there is at
- least 1.5 mm of travel in the tip, and the second to make sure
- that the point doesn't light until the last 0.5 mm.
-
- If the weight test fails, the main spring can be replaced or made
- heavier by lightly stretching it. If the fencer thinks his point
- is too heavy, the spring can be replaced, compressed, or softened
- by heating one end in a flame.
-
- If the epee 0.5 mm shim test fails, the secondary contact spring
- is too long. It should be adjusted or compressed. If the 1.5 mm
- shim test fails, your point may be improperly set up, or may be
- mismatched with the barrel.
-
- Epee points work by closing the circuit between the two blade
- wires when they are depressed. Dirty or faulty points will
- normally cause the weapon to fail to register touches. Foil
- points work in the opposite manner, by opening a closed circuit
- between the blade wire and blade. Dirty or faulty points will
- usually cause the weapon to produce spurious off-target lights.
- See Troubleshooting (sections 2.13, 2.14), below.
-
- 2.11 Glue
-
- Recycled blades must be cleaned before they are re-wired.
- Solvents such as acetone can help, but 10 minutes with a utility
- knife (foil) or wire brush (epee) to remove all traces of glue
- residue from the wire groove also works. New blades sometimes
- require a small amount of cleaning as well, to remove grease and
- grit from the machining process.
-
- Popular wiring glues include Duco cement, 5-minute epoxy, and
- cyanoacrylate glues (eg. super-glue). Cleaning and gluing
- techniques will vary depending on your choice. Thin,
- quick-drying glues such as cyanoacrylates are best put down over
- top of the wire as the wire is held in the groove. If you use a
- thicker glue such as epoxy, you can carefully prepare one surface
- first. For foil wires, coat the wire in glue, and then gently
- pull it tight and lay it into the groove. For epees you can
- alternatively lay a bed of glue down before setting the wire in
- the groove, then make a second run of glue over the wire to seal
- it in place. Top glue the blade, and let it dry while the blade
- is held in a flexed position with the point in the air.
-
- An acetone bath for cleaning blades can be constructed from a
- length of copper tubing, sealed at one end. Fill with acetone,
- drop in your blades, and let soak overnight.
-
- A blade-bowing tool for holding blades flexed while the glue
- dries can be constructed from a length of cord or chain attached
- to some small cups (film cannisters work well). Place the cups
- over either end of the blade, and the tension of the cord will
- hold the blade bent for as long as you need it. Alternatively,
- stand the blade up with the point bent under the rim of a counter
- or table.
-
- 2.12 Scoring Apparatus
-
- The scoring apparatus consists of the reels, floor wires, and
- indicator box, and optionally a timer and scoring tower(s). In
- sabre, the capteur sensors can also be considered part of the
- scoring apparatus, since they are provided by the tournament
- organizers.
-
- Modern foil scoring boxes should display only a coloured light or
- a white light for each fencer. Older boxes (or ones with older
- firmware) may display both if an off-target touch is immediately
- followed by an on-target touch.
-
- It is possible to defeat the foil scoring circuit by grounding
- your own weapon to your lame' (your opponent's touches will fail
- to register, but yours will register). This is illegal, and
- scoring boxes must be equipped with a grounding light to detect
- when fencers do this. Some newer boxes have an anti-fraud
- feature to eliminate this hazard and allow touches to be scored
- in spite of grounding. Boxes without such an anti-fraud circuit
- are useful for detecting dead spots on lame's (ground the lame',
- and then poke the opponent in various locations; white lights
- indicate a dead spot).
-
- Many sabre scoring boxes come with a variety of special options
- or programs for variations on the standard rules; for example,
- fencing without sensors, or with modified whipover timeouts.
-
- Reels are typically portable, spring-wound devices, although some
- salles have permanent overhead installations involving pulleys
- and bungee cords. The overhead variety is normally more
- reliable, since it has fewer mechanics and no electrical brushes.
-
- 2.12.1 Wireless Systems
-
- Wireless scoring systems are currently prohibited, largely due to
- the difficulties in distinguishing between real and forged
- signals. Various modern electronics technologies hold the
- promise of circumventing these problems, and some wireless
- designs are currently in development.
-
- Simple "buzzboxes", compact battery-powered devices that signal
- touches with a light or buzzer, are available from various
- sources, but have very limited functionality. For example, epee
- buzzboxes do not detect bell or ground hits, and foil buzzboxes
- cannot distinguish between on- and off-target touches. There are
- no sabre buzzboxes.
-
- 2.13 Foil Troubleshooting
-
- Weapon fails weight test.
- 1) The spring is too soft. Get a new spring or stretch the old
- one.
- 2) Friction between the barrel and point is overwhelming the
- spring. Clean the inside of the barrel, or replace the entire
- tip if the barrel or point is bent/warped.
-
- Hitting the strip produces a light.
- 1) The strip is not grounded, or is dirty/corroded.
- 2) The exterior of the foil point is dirty/corroded.
-
- Valid touch produces a white light.
- 1) Opponent's lame' is not connected.
- 2) Opponent's body wire is broken. Diagnose by testing at the
- lame' clip and at the reel wire connection.
- 3) Opponent's lame' has a dead spot. With some boxes, dead spots
- can be diagnosed by grounding the fencer's weapon to his
- suspect lame', and then probing the lame' with the other
- fencer's weapon. This does not work with boxes that have an
- anti-fraud feature.
- 4) Your foil body wire polarity is reversed. Disassemble and
- reverse the connections.
- 5) The exterior of the foil point is dirty/corroded.
- 6) Foil circuit is breaking just before the touch (see below).
-
- Foil produces white lights when the tip is not depressed.
- 1) The tip is jammed shut. Spin the point or slap on the floor to
- free it.
- 2) Grit in the tip is breaking the circuit. Spin the point or
- slap on the floor to dislodge the grit.
- 3) The barrel is loose. Tighten carefully with pliers.
- 4) The foil wire is broken. If the lights are intermittent, try
- flexing the blade to trigger the white lights; success means
- the blade wire is probably broken. If the lights are
- triggered by shaking the blade, the point or clip may be to
- blame.
- 5) The circuit is breaking at the clip. Check that the body cord
- is held securely by the clip.
- 6) The body wire is broken. Diagnose by shorting the two
- connections on the weapon end of the body wire. If the lights
- continue, the body wire or reel is at fault. Short the two
- close prongs at the other end of the body wire; if the lights
- stop, the body wire is to blame. If not see (7).
- 7) The scoring apparatus is broken. The connections, reel wire,
- reel contacts, floor wire, or scoring box may be at fault.
- Short the same wires as in (6) at the various points of
- connection to successively eliminate each.
- 8) The guard is loose. Tighten the pommel or pommel nut.
-
- Foil produces coloured lights when the tip is not depressed but
- is in contact with the opponent's lame'.
- 1) The circuit is broken; see previous problem.
- 2) The circuit is breaking when the blade flexes as it contacts
- the lame' or when the point is jarred. Could be caused by
- grit in the tip, a broken wire whose ends normally remain in
- contact, or a separated wire and cup.
-
- There is no light when a touch is made.
- 1) You are not hitting properly.
- 2) Friction between the barrel and point is preventing the
- point from depressing. Slap on the floor to loosen it;
- otherwise clean or replace the tip.
- 3) Spring is too heavy. Compress it or heat one end with a
- match.
- 4) Opponent is grounding his weapon to his lame'. Tell him to
- stop; it's illegal.
- 5) You are grounding your own foil to your opponent's lame'.
- Improve the insulation on your foible (15 cm is required).
- 6) The foil wire is shorting to the weapon. Check the integrity
- of the insulation along the wire and beneath the cushion.
- Also make sure no wire ends at the clip are touching the rest
- of the weapon.
- 7) The scoring box is on the wrong weapon setting.
- 8) There is a short in your body wire. If there are no lights
- when the weapon is unplugged, but there are lights when the
- body wire is unplugged from the reel, the body wire is at
- fault.
- 9) There is a short in the scoring apparatus. If there are no
- lights when the fencer unplugs from the reel, this is the
- problem. It can be isolated by successively unplugging
- connections to the box.
-
- Wrong lights go off when a touch is made.
- 1) The scoring box is on the wrong weapon setting.
-
- 2.14 Epee Troubleshooting
-
- Weapon fails weight test.
- 1) The main spring is too soft. Get a new spring or stretch the
- old one.
- 2) Friction between the barrel and point is overwhelming the
- spring. Clean the inside of the barrel, or replace the entire
- tip if the barrel or point is bent/warped.
-
- Weapon fails shim tests.
- 1) The contact spring is too long. Adjust or compress it.
- 2) Point and barrel are mismatched. Replace.
-
- Hitting the strip produces a light.
- 1) The strip is not grounded, or is dirty/corroded.
- 2) The tip is dirty/corroded.
-
- A touch to the guard produces a light.
- 1) The guard is dirty/corroded.
- 2) The exterior of the tip is dirty/corroded.
- 3) The body wire (in particular the ground) is faulty (test
- against the ground pin of the body cord; if the lights
- continue, the body wire or reel is at fault).
- 4) The contact between the clip and weapon is faulty or corroded.
- 5) The guard is loose.
- 6) The ground pin socket is loose in the weapon clip.
-
- Epee produces lights when the tip is not depressed.
- 1) The tip is jammed shut. Slap on the floor to free it.
- 2) Grit in the tip is shorting the circuit. Slap on the floor to
- dislodge the grit, or disassemble and clean the point.
- 3) The blade wires are shorting to each other. Check the
- insulation, especially inside the guard.
- 4) The scoring box is on the wrong weapon setting.
-
- There is no light when a touch is made.
- 1) You are not hitting properly.
- 2) Friction between the barrel and point is preventing the point
- from depressing. Slap on the floor to loosen it; otherwise
- clean or replace the tip.
- 3) Main spring is too heavy. Compress it or heat one end with a
- match.
- 4) Contact spring is too short. Adjust or stretch it.
- 5) Point contacts are dirty/corroded.
- 6) The epee wire is broken. Re-wire the blade.
- 7) The epee wire is shorting to the weapon.
- 8) Something has come unplugged between you and the box.
- 9) The wires are improperly fastened to the weapon clip.
- 10) The body wire is broken.
- 11) The reel or floor wire is broken.
- 12) The scoring box is on the wrong weapon setting.
-
- 2.15 Sabre Troubleshooting
-
- Box displays white lights.
- 1) The sensor is malfunctioning or jammed.
- 2) The wire in the sabre is broken, or not fastened securely.
- 3) The mounting bracket for the sensor is loose.
- 4) The body wire is loose in the socket.
- 5) The body wire is broken. Switch to foil setting, and diagnose
- as for foil.
- 6) The scoring apparatus is broken. Switch to foil setting and
- diagnose as for foil.
-
- There is no light when a touch is made.
- 1) You are not hitting hard enough.
- 2) The opponent's lame' has dead spots.
- 3) The opponent's lame' or mask is not connected.
- 4) The sensor is malfunctioning.
- 5) The clip is not properly wired to the weapon.
- 6) The opponent's body wire is broken.
- 7) There is a break in the scoring apparatus on the opponent's
- side. This may be in the reel, floor cable, or scoring box.
- 8) There is a short in the body wire. Switch to foil setting and
- diagnose as for foil.
- 9) There is a short in the scoring apparatus. Switch to foil
- setting and diagnose as for foil.
-
- Box indicates a touch following weapon contact or a parry.
- 1) You aren't parrying well enough.
- 2) The weapon is shorting to the lame'. Insulate the edges of
- the guard and the pommel, or hold the weapon in such a way as
- to prevent the contact.
-
- Wrong lights go off when a touch is made.
- 1) The scoring box is on the wrong weapon setting.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
-
- Author: Morgan Burke (morgan@sitka.triumf.ca)
- Contributors: special thanks to Suman Palit, Guy Smith, Greg Dilworth,
- Kevin Taylor, Eric Anderson, Blaine Price, Steve Hick, Kim
- Moser, David Glasser, Bryan Mansfield, Donald Lane, Ann McBain,
- Hagen Lieffertz, Mark C. Orton, Mike Buckley, Dirk Goldar,
- Scott Holmes, Arild Dyrseth, David Airey, Renee Mcmeeken, Marc
- Walch, Eric Speicher, Anton Oskamp, Bernard Hunt, Francis Cordero,
- Kent Krumvieda, David Van Houten, John Crawford
-
- (C) 1993, 1994, 1995 Morgan Burke
- Permission is granted to copy and distribute all or part of this document
- for non-profit purposes.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- End of rec.sport.fencing FAQ part II
-
- Archive-name: sports/fencing-faq/part3
- Last-modified: 1995/03/08
- Version: 4.10
-
- +-------------------+
- | F E N C I N G |
- +-------------------+
-
- This is Part III of the 3-part rec.sport.fencing Frequently Asked
- Questions list. All parts can be found on the UseNet newsgroups
- rec.sport.fencing, rec.answers, or news.answers. Otherwise, consult
- section 3.7 for information on finding archived copies of this
- document.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- PART III: REFERENCES
-
- 3.1 Fencing organizations
- 3.2 Equipment suppliers & outfitters *** revised
- 3.3 Fencing Books
- 3.4 Fencing Films
- 3.5 Fencing Videos
- 3.6 Fencing Software
- 3.7 Fencing Online *** revised
- 3.8 Glossary of terms
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- 3.1 Fencing Organizations
-
- Federation Internationale d'Escrime
- 32, Rue La Boetie
- 75008 Paris, France
-
- AUSTRIA:
- Federation d'Escrime de l'Autriche
- Organizationskomitee der Fecht
- Union Modling
- Herzfeldercasse - 20
- A2351 Wr. Neudorf, Austria
- TEL: 223-623-305
-
- BRITAIN:
- Amateur Fencing Association
- 1 Barons Gate
- 33-35 Rothschild Road
- London W4 5HT
- TEL: 081 742-3032
-
- CANADA:
- Canadian Fencing Federation
- 1600 Prom. James Naismith Drive
- Gloucester, ON K1B 5N4
- TEL: (613) 748-5633
- FAX: (613) 748-5742
- BBS: (613) 748-5881
-
- GERMANY:
- Deutsche Fechter Bund Schermband
- AM Neuen Lindenhof - 2
- 5300 Bonn, Germany
- TEL: 48-228-671-021
-
- NETHERLANDS:
- Koninklijke Nederlandse Algemene Schermbond
- POBox 18690
- 2502 ER The Hague
- The Netherlands
- TEL/FAX: ++31 70 3211 705
-
- NORWAY:
- Norges Fekteforbund
- Hauger skolevei 1,
- 13351 RUD, Norway
- TEL: +47 22 87 46 00
-
- UNITED STATES:
- United States Fencing Association
- One Olympic Plaza
- Colorado Springs, CO 80909-5774
- TEL: (719) 578-4511
- FAX: (719) 632-5737
-
- Contact your national fencing body to get the addresses and phone
- numbers of your local/provincial/divisional fencing associations.
-
- 3.2 Equipment suppliers & outfitters
-
- Many of the following businesses will mail you a catalogue if
- requested. This FAQ does not endorse any of these companies.
-
- AUSTRALIA:
-
- Aladdin Sports Fentec Sports
- 46 Hosken Street 48 Clara St
- North Balwyn 3104 Camp Hill QLD 4158
- TEL: +61 3 483-3077 TEL: (07) 395 3852
- FAX: +61 3 816-3357
- EMAIL: garwoli@latcs1.lat.oz.au
-
- Fencing International Equipment
- Angelo Santangelo, Maestro of Arms
- 47 Dalrymple Avenue,
- Chatswood, NSW, 2067
- TEL: +61-2-419-8968
-
- BRITAIN:
-
- Blades Leon Paul
- 35 Edinburgh Drive 14 New North Street
- Staines, Middlesex TW18 1PJ London WC1N 3PW
- TEL: 0784 255-522 TEL: 071 405-3832
- FAX: 0784 245-942 FAX: 071 405-3834
-
- Gladiators Merlin Enterprises
- 101 High Street 24 Prices Lane
- Evesham, Worcestershire York, YO2 1AL
- WR11 4DN TEL/FAX: 0904 611537
- TEL: 0386 421296
- FAX: 0386 421298
-
- Sporteq Duellist Enterprises
- 608 Ringwood Road The Colonnades,
- Poole, Dorset 82 Bishops Bridge Road,
- BH12 4LY London, W2 6BB
- TEL: 0202 747616 or 0202 747919 TEL: 081 747 9629
- FAX: 0202 747616
-
- White Knights
- Freepost DL780
- Spennymoor
- Co. Durham
- DL16 6BR
- TEL: 0941 159598 or 0388 815491
- FAX: 0388 811352
- EMAIL: david.joyce@sunderland.ac.uk
-
- CANADA:
-
- Fencing Equipment of Canada Allstar (Herb Obst Agency)
- 2407 Bayview Place CP 788 Succursdale NDG
- Calgary, Alberta T2V 0L6 Montreal, Quebec H4A 3S2
- TEL: (403) 281-1384 TEL: (514) 482-2140
- FAX: (403) 281-0043 FAX: (514) 485-9283
- Agents:
- Prieur-PBT Halifax: Barbara Daniel
- Vijay Prasad (902) 457-9228
- 383 Tamarack Dr. Winnipeg: Milton Himsl
- Waterloo, Ontario N2L 4G7 (204) 284-4138
- TEL: (519) 885-6496 Ottawa: Ron Millette
- FAX: (519) 888-6197 (613) 235-2226
- Saskatoon: Dennis Duncan
- Riposte PBT (306) 664-8527
- Tibor & Victor Abraham Vancouver: Zbig Pietrusinski
- 113 Iona Ave. (604) 984-2157
- Hamilton, Ontario L8S 2L8
- TEL: (905) 572-7157
- FAX: (905) 528-8894
-
- FRANCE:
-
- Prieur Soudet
- 18 rue Nemours 31 Boulevard Voltaire
- Paris, 11e Paris, 11e
- TEL: 43 57 89 90 TEL: 48 06 48 48
-
- GERMANY:
-
- Uhlmann Fecht-Sport Allstar Fecht-Center
- Uhlandstrasse 12 Carl-Zeiss Strasse 61
- 88471 Laupheim 72700 Reutlingen
- Deutschland Deutschland
-
- Fecht-Sport H.Lieffertz
- Eibenweg 3
- D-50767 Cologne
- Deutschland
- TEL/FAX: +49 221 795254
- EMAIL: Sjoerd@anomalie.gun.de
-
- USA:
-
- Triplette Competiton Arms Blade Fencing Equipment, Inc.
- 162 W. Pine St. 212 West 15th St.
- Mt Airy, NC 27030 NY, NY 10011
- TEL: (910) 786-5294 TEL: (212) 620-0114
- FAX: (212) 620-0116
- George Santelli, Inc.
- 465 South Dean St. American Fencers Supply
- Englewood, NJ 07631 1180 Folsom St.
- TEL: (201) 871-3105 San Francisco, CA 94103
- TEL: (415) 863-7911
- Colonial Distributing
- Fencing Equipment Uhlmann International
- PO Box 636 Wolf Finck, Pres. USA Headquarters
- Cedarburg, Wisconsin 53012 330 N. Fayette Drive
- TEL: (414) 377-9166 Fayetteville, GA 30214
- FAX: (414) 377-9166 TEL: (404) 461-3809
-
- The Fencing Post Zivkovic Modern Fencing Equipment
- 2543 Monticello Way 77 Arnold Road
- Santa Clara, CA 95051 Wellesley Hills, MA 02181
- TEL: (408) 247-3604 TEL: (617) 235-3324
-
- Cheris Fencing Supply Southern California Fencers Equipment
- 5818 East Colfax Avenue 16131 Valerio Street
- Denver, CO 80220 Van Nuys, CA 91406
- TEL: (303) 321-8657 TEL: (818) 997-4538
- 1-800-433-6232 FAX: (818) 998-8385
- FAX: (303) 321-8696 Hours: 4:30pm - 7:30pm Wed & Thurs
-
- SCORING MACHINES ONLY:
-
- Commodore Systems Fencing Technologies
- (Saber 3-weapon box) P.O. Box 16181
- P.O. Box 22992 Minneapolis, MN, 55416
- Nashville, TN 37202 TEL/FAX: (612) 926-7955
- TEL: 1-800-627-4903 EMAIL: richard-marciano@uiowa.edu
- (615) 329-9398
- FAX: (615) 329-0640
- EMAIL: howardef@macpost.vanderbilt.edu
-
- 3.3 Fencing Books
-
- This list has been compiled from suggestions by rec.sport.fencing
- readers, and is far from complete.
-
- Alaux, Modern Fencing (Charles Scribner, ?)
- Anderson, All About Fencing (Arco, 1970)
- Angelo, The School of Fencing (Land's End Press, 1971)
- Beke & Polgar, The Methodology of Sabre Fencing (Corvina Press, 1963)
- Bowers, Foil Fencing 7th Ed. (Brown & Benchmark, 1993)
- Campos, The Art of Fencing (Vantage Press, 1988)
- Castello, The Theory and Practice of Fencing (Charles Scribner, 1933)
- Castello, Fencing (Ronald Press, 1962)
- Castle, The Schools and Masters of Fence (Arms & Armour Press, 1969)
- Crosnier, Fencing with the Foil (Faber & Faber, 1951)
- Curry, The Fencing Book (?, 1984)
- FIE, Rules of Competition (AFA, CFF, USFA, etc., every year)
- de Beaumont, Fencing: Ancient Art and Modern Sport (?, ?)
- Garret, Kaidanov, & Pezza, Foil, Sabre, and Epee Fencing (Penn State, 1994)
- Gaugler, Fencing Everyone (Hunter, 1987)
- Hutton, The Sword and the Centuries (Charles E. Tuttle, 1980)
- Lukovich, Electric Foil Fencing (Corvina Press, 1971)
- Lukovich, Fencing (Corvina Press, 1986)
- Morton, A-Z of Fencing (Queen Anne, 1988)
- Nadi, On Fencing (G.P. Putnam, 1943) (Laureate Press, 1994)
- Palffy-Alpar, Sword and Masque (FA Davis, 1967)
- Pitman, Fencing, Techniques of Foil, Epee, and Sabre (Crowood, 1988)
- Manley, Compleate Fencing (Doubleday, 198?)
- Selberg, Foil (Addison-Wesley, 1976)
- Selberg, Revised Foil (Spotted Dog Press, 1993?)
- Simmons and Morton, Start Fencing (Sportman's Press, 1989)
- Simonian, Basic Foil Fencing 2nd Ed. (Kendall/Hunt, 1982)
- Wyrick, Foil Fencing (W.B. Sanders, 1971)
-
- 3.4 Fencing Films
-
- The following films involve some amount of swordfighting or
- swashbuckling. They are rated on a four-star system, which is a
- general critics' opinion of the film as a whole, not an indicator of
- the quality or quantity of the film's fencing. Major actors and
- occasionally the director (denoted by a '!') are named. Films with
- 2 stars or less have been omitted, as have recent films that have not
- yet been widely released or reviewed.
-
- The Adventures of Don Juan (1949, Errol Flynn, Raymond Burr, ***)
- The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938, Errol Flynn, Basil Rathbone, ****)
- Against All Flags (1952, Errol Flynn, Anthony Quinn, **1/2)
- Barry Lyndon (1975, Ryan O'Neal, Patrick Magee, !Stanley Kubrick, ***1/2)
- Black Arrow (1985, Oliver Reed, **1/2)
- Black Pirate (1926, Douglas Fairbanks, ***1/2)
- Black Swan (1942, Tyrone Power, Anthony Quinn, ***1/2)
- Blind Fury (1990, Rutger Hauer, **1/2)
- Bob Roberts (1992, Tim Robbins, ***1/2)
- By the Sword (1993, F. Murray Abraham, Eric Roberts, **1/2)
- Captain Blood (1935, Errol Flynn, Basil Rathbone, ***1/2)
- The Challenge (1982, Toshiro Mifune, Scott Glenn, **1/2)
- The Charge of the Light Brigade (1936, Errol Flynn, David Niven, ****)
- Conan the Barbarian (1982, Arnold Scharzenegger, James Earl Jones, **1/2)
- The Corsican Brothers (1941, Douglas Fairbanks Jr, **1/2)
- The Count of Monte Cristo (1934, Robert Donat, ***)
- The Count of Monte Cristo (1975, Richard Chamberlain, Tony Curtis,***)
- The Court Jester (1956, Danny Kaye, Basil Rathbone, **1/2)
- Crossed Swords (1978, Raquel Welch, Charlton Heston, **1/2)
- Cyrano de Bergerac (1950, Jose Ferrer, ***1/2)
- Cyrano de Bergerac (1990, Gerard Depardieu, ****)
- Dangerous Liaisons (1988, John Malkovich, Glenn Close, ***1/2)
- The Duellists (1978, Harvey Keitel, Keith Carradine, !Ridley Scott, ***)
- El Cid (1961, Charlton Heston, Sophia Loren, ***)
- The Empire Strikes Back (1980, Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, ****)
- Excalibur (1981, Nicol Williamson, !John Boorman, ***1/2)
- The Flame and the Arrow (1950, Burt Lancaster, Virginia Mayo, ***)
- Flesh and Blood (1985, Rutger Hauer, !Paul Verhoeven, **1/2)
- The Four Musketeers (1975, Richard Chamberlain, Michael York, ***)
- Frenchman's Creek (1944, Basil Rathbone, Joan Fontaine, ***)
- Glory (1989, Matthew Broderick, Denzel Washington, ***1/2)
- Hamlet (1948, !Laurence Olivier, ****)
- Hamlet (1969, Anthony Hopkins, ***1/2)
- Hamlet (1990, Mel Gibson, Glenn Close, !Franco Zeffirelli, ***)
- Henry V (1944, Laurence Olivier, ****)
- Henry V (1989, !Kenneth Branagh, ***1/2)
- Highlander (1986, Chistopher Lambert, Sean Connery, **1/2)
- Ivanhoe (1953, Robert Taylor, Elizabeth Taylor, ***1/2)
- Ivanhoe (1982, James Mason, **1/2)
- Ladyhawke (1985, Rutger Hauer, Michelle Pfeiffer, **1/2)
- Long John Silver (1954, Robert Newton, Kit Taylor, ***)
- Macbeth (1948, Orson Welles, Roddy McDowall, ***)
- Macbeth (1971, Jon Finch, ***1/2)
- The Magic Sword (1962, Basil Rathbone, **1/2)
- The Man in Grey (1946, James Mason, Stewart Granger, ***1/2)
- The Mark of Zorro (1920, Douglas Fairbanks, ***)
- The Mark of Zorro (1940, Basil Rathbone, Tyrone Power, ***1/2)
- Morgan the Pirate (1961, Steve Reeves, **1/2)
- The Prince and the Pauper (1937, Errol Flynn, Claude Rains, ***)
- The Princess Bride (1987, Mandy Patinkin, Cary Elwes, !Rob Reiner, ***)
- The Prisoner of Zenda (1937, Douglas Fairbanks Jr, David Niven, ****)
- The Prisoner of Zenda (1952, Stewart Granger, James Mason, ***)
- The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex (1939, Errol Flynn, ***)
- Ran (1985, Tatsuya Nakadai, !Akira Kurosawa, ****)
- The Return of the Jedi (1983, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, ***1/2)
- Robin and Marian (1976, Sean Connery, Audrey Hepburn, ***1/2)
- Romeo and Juliet (1935, Basil Rathbone, Leslie Howard, ***1/2)
- Romeo and Juliet (1954, Laurence Harvey, ***)
- Romeo and Juliet (1968, Michael York, !Franco Zeffirelli, ***1/2)
- Royal Flash (1975, Malcolm McDowell, ***)
- Sanjuro (1962, Toshiro Mifune, !Akira Kurosawa, ***)
- Scaramouche (1952, Stewart Granger, Janet Leigh, ***)
- The Scarlet Pimpernel (1935, Leslie Howard, Merle Oberon, ***1/2)
- The Sea Hawk (1940, Errol Flynn, Claude Rains, ****)
- The Seven Samurai (1954, Toshiro Mifune, !Akira Kurosawa, ****)
- The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad (1958, Kerwin Matthews, ***)
- Shogun (1980, Toshiro Mifune, Richard Chamberlain, **1/2)
- Sinbad the Sailor (1949, Douglas Fairbanks Jr, Maureen O'Hara, ***)
- The Spanish Main (1945, Maureen O'Hara, Paul Heinreid, ***)
- Spartacus (1960, Kirk Douglas, !Stanley Kubrick, ****)
- Star Wars (1977, Harrison Ford, Alec Guinness, ****)
- Sweet Liberty (1986, Alan Alda, Michael Caine, **1/2)
- The Sword of Sherwood Forest (1961, Richard Greene, Peter Cushing, **1/2)
- The Three Musketeers (1935, Walter Abel, **1/2)
- The Three Musketeers (1948, Gene Kelley, Lana Turner, ***)
- The Three Musketeers (1974, Michael York, Raquel Welch, ***)
- The Three Musketeers (1993, Tim Curry, Charlie Sheen, **1/2)
- Throne of Blood (1957, Toshiro Mifune, !Akira Kurosawa, ****)
- Tom Jones (1963, Albert Finney, Suzannah York, ****)
- Under the Red Robe (1937, Raymond Massey, ***)
- The Vikings (1958, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, **1/2)
- The Warriors (1955, Errol Flynn, **1/2)
- Willow (1988, Val Kilmer, !Ron Howard, ***)
- The Yakuza (1975, Robert Mitchum, Takakura Ken, ***)
- Yojimbo (1962, Toshiro Mifune, !Akira Kurosawa, ****)
- Young Sherlock Holmes (1985, Nicholas Rowe, **1/2)
-
- 3.5 Fencing Videos
-
- This section still under construction... contributions welcome!
-
- Competitions:
-
- Promotional:
-
- "The Leading Edge" - available from the CFF
-
- Training:
-
- "Mark Berger's School of Fencing" - available from Triplette
-
- Entertainment:
-
- See section 3.4.
-
- 3.6 Fencing Software
-
- There are several software packages available for the
- administration of fencing tournaments. They generally provide for
- automated seeding, pooling, and elimination tableau organization,
- with the ability to display/print out intermediate and final
- results. They are best suited for events with 15 to 250 or more
- entrants. With less than 15 entrants, organization is generally
- just as fast by hand.
-
- ATHOS is a French program (by Christian Coulon of Paris), although
- the display and manuals are in French or English. ATHOS is widely
- used at world levels of competition, including the 1993 and 1994
- U-20 World Championships. It runs on DOS PCs. It is the only
- official fencing software recognized by the CFF. In the USA, the
- price is $250 (includes unlimited upgrades and support). Contact
- Marc Walch (Marc.J.Walch@JPL.NASA.GOV, (818) 354 5688).
-
- Engarde is another French program (by F. F. Nicaud of Paris), and
- runs on Apple or PC. Like ATHOS, it sees extensive use at
- international levels of competition, including the 1994 World
- Championships. It is available in French only, and is freely
- reproducible. Contact your national fencing organization for more
- information.
-
- Xseed is an American program (by Dan McCormick of Hudson, Ohio),
- supported by the USFA only. It runs on DOS PCs. Contact the USFA
- for more information.
-
- There are supposed to be other programs that are more common in
- other countries and languages, such as German and Italian.
- Contact the national fencing organizations of such countries to
- find out more.
-
- 3.7 Fencing Online
-
- Known cyberspace fencing resources include:
-
- UseNet:
-
- rec.sport.fencing - discussion on all subjects
- rec.martial-arts - some discussion of Eastern styles and history
- rec.org.sca - some discussion of history, SCA heavy and light
- weapons styles, armoury, and weaponsmithy
- sci.military - occasional discussions of historical topics
-
- WWW:
-
- FIE fencing:
-
- http://www.ii.uib.no/~arild/fencing.html
- http://chico.rice.edu/~gbierner/fencing/fencing.html
- http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/mabuckle/fencing/
- http://riceinfo.rice.edu/~gbierner/fencing/fencing.html
- http://sarah.rsip.lsu.edu/fencing/fencing.home.html
- http://usa.net/chanlz/fencing.html
- http://www.uc.edu/~kreinddd/cfc.html
- http://www.usu.edu/~fencing/
- http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~harlan/durendal/durendal.html
- http://www.metronet.com/1/North-Texas-Free-Net/Recreation-Center\
- /fencing
- http://www.public.iastate.edu/~grizzly/fencing/ISUFC.html
- http://www.std.com/homepages/std/recreation.html
- http://www.warwick.ac.uk/WWW/leisure-services/students-union\
- /fencing/fencing.html
- http://www.wimsey.com/teletimes/fencing_invitation.html
- http://www.york.ac.uk/~socs126/
- http://www2.uncg.edu/~mvtebaul/
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- SCA & Period fencing:
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- http://mac9.ucc.nau.edu/fencing.html
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- Japanese fencing:
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- http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca./~lfowler/home2.html
- http://tdg.uoguelph.ca/~johanna/iaido.html
- http://www.bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de/~k2/budo_english/iaido/iaido.html
- http://www.rain.org/~galvan/galvan.html
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- The Fencing FAQ is archived at:
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- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/sports/fencing-faq\
- /top.html
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- FTP:
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- MACC bbs: bbs.macc.wisc.edu /pub2/fencing
- Iaido archive: rudolf.nscl.msu.edu /pub/iaido
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- The Fencing FAQ is archived at the following locations, among others:
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- North America: ftp.uu.net /usenet/news.answers
- rtfm.mit.edu various directories
- Europe: ftp.uni-paderborn.de /pub/FAQ
- ftp.Germany.EU.net /pub/newsarchive/news.answers
- grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr /pub/faq
- ftp.win.tue.nl /pub/usenet/news.answers
- Asia: nctuccca.edu.tw /USENET/FAQ
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- Gopher:
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- gopher://info.utas.edu.au\
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- Prodigy:
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- Jump: SPORTS BB or Jump: SPORTS PLAY. Select OTHER or OTHER
- SPORTS and look for subjects beginning with "FENCING".
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- CompuServe:
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- GO CIS:GOODHE, and look under "Martial Arts"
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- eWorld:
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- America Online:
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- GS ARTS will take you to the Martial Arts board.
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- Mailing Lists:
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- Touche: send to "listserv@ricevm1.rice.edu" with text
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- Iaido: send to "listserv@uoguelph.ca", with text (and subject)
- "SUBSCRIBE IAIDO-L your@email.address". (Very active, 10-30
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- Martial Arts and Swords in TV/Film: send to "listserv@psuvm.psu.edu"
- with text "SUBSCRIBE MASTVF-L Your Name". (Fairly active, about
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- Bulletin Boards:
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- Canadian Fencing Federation: (613) 748-5881
- MACC BBS: (608) 263-6057 or (608) 265-3513; see \pub2\fencing
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- GIFs, graphics, & other digital representations of fencing:
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- See especially:
- http://www.ii.uib.no/~arild/fencing.html
- ftp://bbs.macc.wisc.edu/pub2/fencing
- ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/sports/fencing
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- Many other WWW sites (shown above) have online fencing images.
-
- 3.8 Glossary of terms:
-
- Absence of blade: when the blades are not touching; opposite of
- engagement.
- Advance: a movement forward by step, cross, or balestra.
- Aids: the last three fingers of the sword hand.
- Assault: friendly combat between two fencers.
- Attack: the initial offensive action made by extending the sword
- arm and continuously threatening the valid target of the
- opponent.
- Attack au Fer: an attack that is prepared by deflecting the opponent's
- blade, eg. beat, froissement, pressure.
- Balestra: a forward hop or jump, typically followed by an attack
- such as a lunge or fleche.
- Bayonet: a type of electrical connector for weapons.
- Beat: an attempt to knock the opponent's blade aside or out of line by
- using one's foible or middle against the opponent's foible.
- Bind: an action in which the opponent's blade is forced into the
- diagonally opposite line.
- Black Card: used to indicate the most serious offences in a fencing
- competition. The offending fencer is usually expelled from the
- event or tournament.
- Bout: an assault at which the score is kept.
- Broadsword: a military sword and fencing weapon popular in the 18th-19th
- centuries, similar to a heavy sabre; any straight-bladed, double-
- edged, single-handed cutting sword of the post-medieval period.
- Broken Time: a sudden change in the tempo of one fencer's actions, used
- to fool the opponent into responding at the wrong time.
- Button: the safety tip on the end of practice swords.
- Change of Engagement: engagement of the opponent's blade in the
- opposite line.
- Compound: also composed; an attack or riposte incorporating one or
- more feints to the opposite line that the action finishes in.
- Conversation: the back-and-forth play of the blades in a fencing match,
- composed of phrases (phrases d'armes) punctuated by gaps of no
- blade action.
- Counter-attack: an attack made against the right-of-way, or in
- response to the opponent's attack.
- Counter-disengage: a disengage in the opposite direction, to deceive
- the counter-parry.
- Counter-parry: a parry made in the opposite line to the attack; ie.
- the defender first comes around to the opposite side of the
- opponent's blade.
- Counter-riposte: an attack that follows a parry of the opponent's
- riposte.
- Counter-time: an attack that responds to the opponent's counter-attack,
- typically a riposte following the parry of the counter-attack.
- Corps-a-corps: lit. "body-to-body"; physical contact between the
- two fencers during a bout, illegal in foil and sabre.
- Coule': also graze, glise', or glissade; an attack or feint that slides
- along the opponent's blade.
- Coup lance': a launched hit; an attack that starts before a
- stop in play but lands after. Valid for normal halts, but not
- valid at end of time.
- Coupe': also cut-over; an attack or deception that passes around the
- opponent's tip.
- Croise: also semi-bind; an action in which the opponent's blade is
- forced into the high or low line on the same side.
- Cross: an advance or retreat by crossing one leg over the other;
- also passe' avant (forward cross), passe' arriere (backwards cross).
- Cut: an attack made with a chopping motion of the blade, landing with
- the edge or point.
- Deception: avoidance of an attempt to engage the blades; see
- disengage, coupe'
- Derobement: deception of the attack au fer or prise de fer.
- Direct: an attack or riposte that finishes in the same line in which it
- was formed, with no feints out of that line.
- Disengage: a circular movement of the blade that deceives the
- opponent's parry, removes the blades from engagement, or changes the
- line of engagement.
- Displacement: moving the target to avoid an attack; dodging.
- Double: in epee, two attacks that arrive within 40-50 ms of each
- other.
- Double': an attack or riposte that describes a complete circle
- around the opponent's blade, and finishes in the opposite line.
- Dry: also steam; fencing without electric scoring aids.
- Engagement: when the blades are in contact with each other, eg.
- during a parry, attack au fer, prise de fer, or coule'.
- En Garde: also On Guard; the fencing position; the stance that
- fencers assume when preparing to fence.
- Envelopment: an engagement that sweeps the opponent's blade
- through a full circle.
- Epee: a fencing weapon with triangular cross-section blade and a large
- bell guard; also a light duelling sword of similar design, popular
- in the mid-19th century.
- False: an action that is intended to fail, but draw a predicted
- reaction from the opponent; also, the back edge of a sabre blade.
- Feint: attacking into one line with the intention of switching to
- another line before the attack is completed.
- Fencing Time: also temps d'escrime; the time required to complete
- a single, simple fencing action.
- FIE: Federation Internationale d'Escrime, the world governing
- body of fencing.
- Finta in tempo: lit. "feint in time"; a feint of counter-attack
- that draws a counter-time parry, which is decieved.
- Fleche: lit. "arrow"; an attack in which the aggressor leaps off his
- leading foot, attempts to make the hit, and then passes the opponent
- at a run.
- Flick: a cutting action that lands with the point, often involving some
- whip of the foible of the blade to "throw" the point around a block
- or other obstruction.
- Florentine: a fencing style where a secondary weapon or other instrument
- is used in the off hand.
- Flying Parry or Riposte: a parry with a backwards glide and riposte by
- cut-over.
- Foible: the upper, weak part of the blade.
- Foil: a fencing weapon with rectangular cross-section blade and a small
- bell guard; any sword that has been buttoned to render it less
- dangerous for practice.
- Forte: the lower, strong part of the blade.
- French Grip: a traditional hilt with a slightly curved grip and a large
- pommel.
- Froissement: an attack that displaces the opponent's blade by a
- strong grazing action.
- Guard: the metal cup or bow that protects the hand from being hit.
- Also, the defensive position assumed when not attacking.
- Hilt: the handle of a sword, consisting of guard, grip, and pommel.
- Homologated: certified for use in FIE competitions, eg. 800N clothing
- and maraging blades.
- In Quartata: an attack made with a quarter turn to the inside,
- concealing the front but exposing the back.
- In Time: when a stop-hit arrives at least one fencing time before
- the original attack.
- Indirect: an attack or riposte that finishes in the opposite line to
- which it was formed, by means of a disengage or coupe'.
- Insistence: forcing an attack through the parry.
- Invitation: a line that is intentionally left open to encourage
- the opponent to attack.
- Italian Grip: a traditional hilt with finger rings and crossbar.
- Jury: the 4 officials who watch for hits in a dry fencing bout.
- Lame': a metallic vest/jacket used to detect valid touches in foil
- and sabre.
- Line: the main direction of an attack (eg., high/low, inside/outside),
- often equated to the parry that must be made to deflect the attack;
- also point in line.
- Lunge: an attack made by extending the rear leg and landing on the
- bent front leg.
- Mal-parry: also mal-pare'; a parry that fails to prevent the attack
- from landing.
- Manipulators: the thumb and index finger of the sword hand.
- Maraging: a special steel used for making blades; said to be stronger
- and break more cleanly than conventional steels.
- Marker Points: an old method of detecting hits using inked points.
- Martingale: a strap that binds the grip to the wrist/forearm.
- Match: the aggregate of bouts between two fencing teams.
- Measure: the distance between the fencers.
- Middle: the middle third of the blade, between foible and forte.
- Neuvieme: parry #9; blade behind the back, pointing down;
- alternatively, similiar to elevated sixte.
- Octave: parry #8; blade down and to the outside, wrist supinated.
- Opposition: holding the opponent's blade in a non-threatening line;
- a time-hit; any attack or counter-attack with opposition.
- Parry: a block of the attack, made with the forte of one's own blade.
- Pass: an attack made with a cross; eg. fleche, "Russian lunge".
- Also, the act of moving past the opponent.
- Passata-sotto: a lunge made by dropping one hand to the floor.
- Passe': an attack that passes the target without hitting; also a
- cross-step (see cross).
- Phrase: a set of related actions and reactions in a fencing conversation.
- Piste: the linear strip on which a fencing bout is fought; approx.
- 2m wide and 14m long.
- Pistol Grip: a modern, orthopaedic grip, shaped vaguely like a small
- pistol; varieties are known by names such as Belgian, German,
- Russian, and Visconti.
- Plaque': a point attack that lands flat.
- Plastron: a partial jacket worn for extra protection; typically a
- half-jacket worn under the main jacket on the weapon-arm side of the
- body.
- Point: a valid touch; the tip of the sword; an attack made with
- the point (ie. a thrust)
- Point in Line: also line; an extended arm and blade that threatens
- the opponent.
- Pommel: a fastener that attaches the grip to the blade.
- Preparation: the initial phase of an attack, before right-of-way is
- established.
- Presentation: offering one's blade for engagement by the opponent.
- Press: an attempt to push the opponent's blade aside or out of line;
- depending on the opponent's response, the press is followed by a
- direct or indirect attack.
- Prime: parry #1; blade down and to the inside, wrist pronated.
- Principle of Defence: the use of forte against foible when parrying.
- Priority: in sabre, the now-superceded rules that decide which fencer
- will be awarded the touch in the event that they both attack
- simultaneously; also used synonymously with right-of-way.
- Prise de Fer: also taking the blade; an engagement of the blades
- that forces the opponent's weapon into a new line. See: bind,
- croise, envelopment, opposition.
- Quarte: parry #4; blade up and to the inside, wrist supinated.
- Quinte: parry #5; blade up and to the inside, wrist pronated.
- In sabre, the blade is held above the head to protect from head
- cuts.
- Rapier: a long, double-edged thrusting sword popular in the 16th-17th
- centuries.
- Red Card: used to indicate repeated minor rule infractions or a major
- rule infraction by one of the fencers; results in a point being
- given to the other fencer.
- Redoublement: a new action that follows an attack that missed or
- was parried; see also Reprise.
- Referee: also director, president; the mediator of the fencing bout.
- Remise: immediate replacement of an attack that missed or was
- parried, without withdrawing the arm.
- Reprise: renewal of an attack that missed or was parried, after a
- return to en-garde; see also Redoublement.
- Retreat: step back; opposite of advance.
- Right-of-way: rules for awarding the point in the event of a double
- touch in foil or sabre.
- Riposte: an attack made immediately after a parry of the opponent's
- attack.
- Sabre: a fencing weapon with a flat blade and knuckle guard, used with
- cutting or thrusting actions; a military sword popular in the 18th
- to 20th centuries; any cutting sword used by cavalry.
- Salle: a fencing hall or club.
- Salute: with the weapon, a customary acknowledgement of one's
- opponent and referee at the start and end of the bout.
- Second Intention: a false action used to draw a response from the
- opponent, which will open the opportunity for the intended
- action that follows, typically a counter-riposte.
- Seconde: parry #2; blade down and to the outside, wrist pronated.
- Septime: parry #7; blade down and to the inside, wrist supinated.
- Simple: an attack or riposte that involves no feints.
- Simultaneous: in foil and sabre, two attacks for which the
- right-of-way is too close to determine.
- Single Stick: a form of fencing with basket-hilted wooden sticks.
- Sixte: parry #6; blade up and to the outside, wrist supinated.
- Small Sword: a light duelling sword popular in the 18th century,
- precursor to the foil.
- Stop Hit: a counter-attack that hits; also a counter-attack whose touch
- is valid by virtue of it's timing.
- Stop Cut: a stop-hit with the edge in sabre, typically to the cuff.
- Three Prong: a type of epee body wire/connector; also an old-fashioned
- tip that would snag clothing, to make it easier to detect hits in the
- pre-electric era.
- Thrown Point: a "flick".
- Thrust: an attack made by moving the sword parallel to its length and
- landing with the point.
- Tierce: parry #3; blade up and to the outside, wrist pronated.
- Time Hit: also time-thrust; old name for stop hit with opposition.
- Trompement: deception of the parry.
- Two Prong: a type of body-wire/connector, used in foil and sabre.
- Whip-over: in sabre, a touch that results from the foible of the blade
- whipping over the opponent's guard or blade when parried.
- Whites: fencing clothing.
- Yellow Card: also advertissement, warning; used to indicate a minor
- rule infraction by one of the fencers.
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- ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
-
- Author: Morgan Burke (morgan@sitka.triumf.ca)
- Contributors: special thanks to Suman Palit, Guy Smith, Greg Dilworth,
- Kevin Taylor, Eric Anderson, Blaine Price, Steve Hick, Kim
- Moser, David Glasser, Bryan Mansfield, Donald Lane, Ann McBain,
- Hagen Lieffertz, Mark C. Orton, Mike Buckley, Dirk Goldar,
- Scott Holmes, Arild Dyrseth, David Airey, Renee Mcmeeken, Marc
- Walch, Eric Speicher, Anton Oskamp, Bernard Hunt, Francis Cordero,
- Kent Krumvieda, David Van Houten, John Crawford
-
- (C) 1993, 1994, 1995 Morgan Burke
- Permission is granted to copy and distribute all or part of this document
- for non-profit purposes.
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